Break to the time of 14.58

BREAK to around the clock 15.55

15.48: Söderlund Björk asks for a break.

15.46. The witness: We confronted Tobias, and he was also sad because he was not behind it either, all were sad, for there was nothing we wanted.

15.43. The witness: Yes finally, I had asked for in all the damn years I didn't have pain in stomach more, I need security, perhaps more than other people for various reasons. But I open and it was 20 pages, and I knew nothing, and it fell into the e-mail from the other but I said to the other, this can't be right, and I replied that Tobias may not have seen the agreement.

15.43: Had you any agreement by the end of 2016?

15.41. The witness: He was the talk and he was a fucking great drummer, and we said to him we wanted to be with.

15.41. Berg: Martin Hjertstedt then?

15.40. Yes, we did.

15.40. Berg: How did Henrik Palm in the band, took a joint decision that he would be with?

The presiding judge goes in and asks that there should be a more questioning than a story and ask the witness to try to answer the straighter and shorter (personally, I think it has been so from the Forges of the witnesses on a number of occasions before).

15.36. It sounds damn weird

15.35. Berg: According to Tobias, it was so here simply because you were hired musicians.

15.34: It was resolved on if on all the time.

15.32. Berg: How did you overcome it?

15.31. The witness: Yeah, we had a conference call where we talked through everything (with Rick Sales Entertainment) and we listen to that they should solve this, everything should resolve itself, we are told. It was bad because we had lodging money, we could not afford to eat even, and so we would go to the USA and play in. Here, then, is the Universal that can afford to hire one of the world's five most expensive studios for us in six weeks but cannot afford to give us a bun or a juice.

15.29. Berg: it was Heard discussions about compensation somewhere?

15.28. The witness: I have written music and I've designed costumes, four at least, has come on how the cover should look like I have been for a lot of things that are difficult to evaluate, as the strategy and things to think about.

15.28. Berg: How were you involved in the Ghost?

15.23. Berg goes through an e-mail that the witness sent: the Witness: It's all about, it should be here so they may buy us out. If there is no money and if not kompanjonsavtal are so they may well pay us retroactively, type 70 gig, it is either a requirement from my side that if they are going to buy me out. But it never happened.

15.22. The witness: Everyone in the band trying to make it is is a total fucking poor, I mean total destitute, we have belånat family and friends to be able to be out there and play.

15.18. The witness: Right as it is set we have a situation where Tobias sat on the AB at the same time that we should negotiate with his manager, not our longer, so we shall not go jointly to them to renegotiate, I'm pissed and e-mail about this. I'm impulsive and angry, and I think I sent it here without having to wait for what the others thought, I don't know if it was so, but it may have been so.

15.18. The witness: People are starting to quit their jobs to have time to do it here. Everyone wants to make aseth but no one has advice for we do not even get out to pay the rent at home. I remember that a big part of it all is that they are expensive to run but it was bizarre, why should we buy a bunch of stuff to the machines if we can't even afford to drive it here.

15.15. Berg take up an e-mail in which the witness e-mailed and questioned the solution and why it suddenly was not good with an economic association.

15.13. The witness: Economically it was scantily and it tinted up and we saw that there would be many gigs but it grew a concern about how it would be solved, many had asvårt to go from the job, the deed was cumbersome for many.

15.12. The witness: I, for a period, and went at folkuniversitetet but it was very mixed back then.

15.11. Berg: How was the situation, how did your economic conditions?

15.10. The witness: of Course, I'm on the album and should have part of it.

15.09. Berg: What would happen if you hit a record deal and that it would get money from it, you would have a part of them?

15.08. He also tells us that his interpretation is that they are going to write a kompanjonsavtal because we simply do not have the time to form an economic association.

15.07. Yes I am with in the company. It is my understanding that I was, definitely.

15.06. You are in the Ghost?

15.06. It is our business Ghost.

15.05. Berg. It says that this is tanks to the company Ghost, how to interpret this?

15.04. Now the spikes we it here so that we get it down on paper.

15.04. Berg: How to interpret this email (read from the front cover) with kompanjonsavtal?

15.03. The witness: Yes, this was the tool to handle the money so, yes, I understand that we shall be on the company.

15.02. Berg. You would also have an american company, you would be in it?

15.01. I interpret this to mean that we should form a company together and that it should have a name.

15.00. Berg goes through an e-mail from Tobias Forge is that everyone should come up with three proposals was to what the company should be named. “How do you it here?”

14.59: the Witness: Yes, I do and I remember how you would be able to work with a financial association.

14.58. Berg: Sissi Hagald went through the draft management agreement, you will remember this.

Break to the time of 14.58.

The witness indicates that it was decided that the money from live concerts and all sales of the t-shirt etc would be distributed equally.

14.48. The witness. There is a meeting on how to set up an economic association, Sissi and come and go through how we shall be able to manage it here it is starting to be quite a lot to do at this point.

14.47. Berg mentions another meeting and what the sas on it.

The witness gives a clear picture as proof of the plaintiffs ' story that the money would be divided equally. He testifies about meetings where the members went through that it would be paid equally. So far, therefore, is the witness to the applicant major advantage. It will be interesting to hear Tobias Forges a lawyer to ask questions when it becomes her turn.

14.42. I guess you want to hear was that I was in the band the Ghost and you want to have a say from it. But certainly I'm in the band and I are on the bandmötet but it is not all.

14.42. Berg: It'll be a organisationsmöte and a bandmöte, why are you on both of these?

14.40. What I remember clearly was after a gig in New York that we are on the bus got out of money. Niels goes and hands out money then, thick bundles of dollars, it is mentioned that all have been given equal.

14.39. Berg: In the summer of 2011, you have a number of plays, you got was on the money from the sale?

14.39. Yes, of course.

14.38. Berg: do you Think that you are a part of the Ghost?

14.36. The witness: It vädrades open that it would be distributed equally on gigs. The reason that I noted it was because it was so much, and we realized that we need to have a lawyer for this.

14.35. Berg: Talked to you about the distribution?

14.34. Yes it held several meetings where it is skitviktiga things that need to be made clear, we could sit in maybe five hours and go through the points, we have the meeting of 2 march and 16 march, and what I do know is that we basically had meetings every Monday after that.

14.34. Berg. There was no meeting on economic föredelning?

14.33. Yes, why else would we discuss a manager, it was for all.

14.33. Would a manager work for everyone in the band?

14.32. The witness: Yes, Tobias, it could here very good so we wrote down why it was good for us to have a manager.

14.31. Berg: It is management where also (view the email), it was discussed at the meeting?

14.30. Yes, to the extent that it is best for the band, if someone does not have the time for some reason, so it is not possible but yes, in the big move, everyone would take the decision.

14.29: Berg. In the notes says that it would be the best for the band. Would all be in the decision?

14.27. The witness: Everyone involved could believe that this could be huge and we wanted to know what would happen if it went well. The roles, mandate, manager, all the bases are the important things to know for all.

14.27. Berg: What was the meeting about?

14.26. The witness: Yes, we had, meetings were held the whole time in the bus and a bit now and then but the 2 march we held a major meeting, it is true.

14.26. Had you a meeting of 2 march 2011?

14.25. He was scratched and did his first live at the beginning of 2011 in Helsinki.

14.25. Berg: When is Mauro in the band?

14.23. If there had been money left over so had it gone into the business of it is understood for all that it is. But hypothetically if there had been a lot of money over so I am convinced that the money had been distributed. I want to believe in all of the cases.

14.23: Berg: If there had been a surplus, had you shared it?

14.22. Nah, not at this time, it was understood that you get to shoot for a few bucks, if needed, from bus tickets to the unc on the airports.

14.22. Berg. Discussed compensation when you would be using on gigs?

14.21. Berg goes through the mail.

14.20. The witness: It was fast but we had a gig booked at Visby and one in Umeå.

14.20. Berg: there Were plans for more gigs?

14.18. The witness: Not then. It was not so common from some of us that there was överskottspengar so I never heard that we would split the money, it was just that we thought it was fun that we would go overseas and play for those who wanted to hear us. 2010, I know only that I would be with and play.

14.17. Berg: When the band was formed, had you met with any agreement on fees and costs in the beginning?

14.15. At this time, we sat and recorded the music at home, partly I had been gone for a while. In the summer of 2010 had Tobias and Simon recorded the album and got a contract and it was put together a live band. I was in the studio one day and Simon said that he would play the guitar. I asked Tobias if I could be with in the band. So began my involvement.

14.14. Berg. In the Ghost, how did it look like in 2010?

14.14. The witness: I came in contact with Tobias in 2001 and I have known Simon for as long. I have been in five bands.

14.13. Berg: How did you come in contact with the Ghost.

14.12. Berg opens the hearing.

14.12. The witness has been in the band and has been mentioned often in connection with this trial.

14.10. The witnessed is called.

14.09. The new mejlat referred to as the new evidence is not only accepted, both sides want to use it. It is in the big moves that an agreement should be written at a later date. Berg indicates that he will use it more in his argument.

14.08: All are again in place and the trial resumed.